New: Lars Thrane sensors, B&G Triton2, and Maine Cat 38

Ben Ellison

Ben Ellison

Panbo editor, publisher & chief bottlewasher from 4/2005 until 8/2018, and now excited to have Ben Stein as very able publisher, webmaster, and editing colleague. Panbo is going to the next level in 2019 and beyond.

18 Responses

  1. Itzmann says:

    Ben,
    I failed to realize you had an OP10 pilot control to go with your Tritons. I do as well.
    Do you have this bug: with night lighting, of course the backlight to each individual button turns red. However, the two starboard buttons (+1 and +10)… just turn off. No backlight whatsoever.
    The control remains useful at night because you can still see the -1 and -10, but looks defective. When I complained to Navico, they sent me a new one, but the replacement unit does the same. It is a bug. My pilot is the AC-42 and there is a Zeus and a Zeus2 in the network; must be some interaction that triggers this bug.
    Cheers,

  2. Tom says:

    Pretty sure you update the triton 2 from USB (like the H5000 graphic display)

  3. Charles green says:

    Good write up! Looking forward to you getting your hands on them! The trition2 does update from usb and it can update other nema devices via same usb. http://www.bandg.com/Documents/products/operator-manuals/Triton2_OM_EN_988-11214-001_w.pdf?epslanguage=en-US
    See page 75.

  4. Eureka says:

    Hi Itzmann,
    I had the same problem, did you upgrade the triton pilot keyboard with the latest firmware?
    There is an expecific upgrade that B&G claims solves the problem. Hope it helps.
    Regarding Triton & triton2, the fact daisy chain will be not possible, complicates a little the installation on small boats.
    By the way, I been writing BandG several mails stating there is no audible alarm with the countdown timer, something for regatta porpouse or even boiling eggs, is extremely useful. Since now, Navico group is not solving this basic feature.
    Regards from the Mediterranean!
    Eureka

  5. Ben says:

    Yes, I was completely wrong about the issue of updating Triton2 devices without an MFD, and glad of it! Sounds like B&G has solved that issue nicely:
    “Also note that the Triton2 USB facility can be used to update other devices on the network, just like an MFD can – so that would include (e.g.) wind sensors, heading sensors, autopilots, VHF etc. which could not be updated before without an MFD or a PC running the “SWUP” tool, but now can.”

  6. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    I’m happy to see the Simrad IS42 also has the USB port for display and system updates…
    http://www.simrad-yachting.com/Root/Simrad-Documents/IS42_docs/IS42_OM_EN_988-11199-001_w.pdf
    …though it means I made an even worse mistake ;-(
    Sorry, Navico!

  7. Itzmann says:

    Hello Eureka,
    My Triton Pilot Keypad reports software version 1100 140100.
    My software now is always up-to-date thanks to B&G’s wonderful auto-update feature which takes place any time our WIFI-1 sees the internet, which on our boat happens automatically anytime: anytime the boat’s router sees the internet, the WIFI-1 sees it too.
    By the way, did anyone else notice the “GoFree Shop” accessible from the Zeus2 has not been available for a while?
    Cheers from Ischia,

  8. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Hi Itzmann, I’m not sure I noticed that keypad bug — I don’t run much at night — but I guess it’s fixed now thanks to the improved software updating (and reporting) that Bill Bishop just wrote about and I tried this morning:
    https://staging.panbo.com/archives/2016/09/navico_nasa_moves_tech_support_to_the_cloud.html

  9. Eureka says:

    Latest version is 1.4.6! That solves your problem. Do not know how your Zeus 2 do the update, some items do need a manual update.
    My pilot keypad was updated with latest v 1.4.6 and the problem is now solved.
    Indeed go free shop has been and still out of order.
    By the way, the wifi 1, at least in my case, is always on local mode so I can have acces from my iPad to the zeus2. If I want to connect to the internet I have to choose the option external wifi.
    Best regards,
    Eureka from Barcelona

  10. Xavier Itzmann says:

    Eureka and Ben, many thanks for the heads up regarding v. 1.4.6
    I’d like to clarify that my Zeus2 automated software function reports that my system is fully up-to-date (except the B&G V50 VHF that cannot be updated until Navico physically updates my two H50 handhelds)…
    … and on the list of up-to-date software it includes the Triton Pilot Keypad with Software “1.4.1.0” !
    Not to be confused with the section titled “UPDATE VERSION INFO UNAVAILABLE”, and which in my case lists the 508 Wind Sensor, the AT10 NMEA Converter, the Fusion MS-IP700i, the DST200 dephtsounder, the RC42 Rate Compass, and the Garmin GNT10 (quatix). Clearly the Triton Keypad does not show on this section, and shows instead on the “Up to Date” section instead.
    I’ve done a NASA report and I’ll post on that article’s section on the outcome.
    Eureka, my WIFI-1 is accessible from our iPads but if it gets wired internet from our Cisco router it automatically gets internet access.
    Cheers from the island of Capri,

  11. dkriegel says:

    The Triton 2 hasn’t made it US retailers yet (at least not Defender), but the Triton prices are dropping, so the question is whether to snap up a Triton system or wait until the 2 is available. Support in the way of repairs for my H1000 system pretty much vanished after a few years, and replacements for the un-repairable displays were impossible to find. How long is B&G committed to to support the Triton units? Other than the nifty sailing features (which seem to mirror the Zeus 2 functions in a more convenient display location) what’s different from the Triton? Too early to tell?
    Thanks

  12. xavier Itzmann says:

    Eureka and Ben,
    Navico acknowledged that its NASA report had told me my Triton Keypad was “up to date” and yet it is not, and provided a link to the sw update.
    However, the sw update page reads:
    “Backlighting LEDs adjusted to always show “White”
    SAY WHAT (?)(!). You mean in night mode all of the other six B&G pieces of equipment in my cockpit will turn “Red”… except the seventh piece will glare as if in daylight mode, all “White?”
    Look, I would be OK with the ,>> keys being backlighted “white” permanently for the sake of quashing the bug, but at least the “Mode/STBY/Auto” keys should switch to red!
    So, Ben and Eureka, did you lose “night mode” in its entirety from your Triton Keypad? Are you OK with this loss of functionality?
    Thanks in advance for your comments,

  13. Xavier Itzmann says:

    Pol (@Eureka):
    Thank you. Navico on a subsequent e-mail indicated they recommend the update because of the other fixes other than the backlight bug and said that one B&G piece of equipment on “Daylight” (white) will not clash with the other six B&G on deck on “Night” (red).
    However, I’d much rather rely of a fellow sailor’s take. Like you, we sail largely with autopilot and often with a wireless remote control; nonetheless, on our ’53 centre-cockpit, even if one is lounging on deck, all instruments and controls are forward of all lounging positions, so all instruments and keypads are always visible at all times to anyone on deck.
    Looking forward to your comments. Regards from Positano,

  14. Eureka says:

    Xavier,
    The mode & stby bottom will indeed had a white backlight, but you can control the intensity with the Zeus mfd. it depends how your instruments group are configurated. If all are with the mfd so when you change from daylight to night mode, all change, you will need to create groups so you can better monitored the keypad backlighting.
    The

  15. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Cool. The Maine Cat 38 won Best Sailboat in Newport, and the Best Powerboat under 35 FT. was the Back Cove 32 built in Rockland. Maine rules!
    http://www.newportboatshow.com/nfnp/
    Plus I’m impressed that the judges recognized the value of Garmin putting a J1939 engine port on their 7600 displays.

  16. Dave Geer Dave Geer says:

    Has anyone purchased/installed the Thrane sensors yet?

  17. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Dave, I have samples of all three Thrane sensors but haven’t quite finished any of the installs yet. I have powered up the LT-500, however, and the performance looks really impressive in the sense that any heading, roll or pitch motion is shown quickly on that little (though sharp) screen but then quite stable at rest. The menu controls also look good and so does the mounting details of all 3. More soon.

  18. eastlands says:

    Hi Itzmann & Eureka
    I have Triton AC12 autopilot with Zeus2 MFD and, like you, my auto-pilot backlighting is red on port buttons and not functioning on starboard buttons.
    The instruments were installed in my boat from new (2015) but I only noticed it this season as I didn’t do any night sailing last year.
    My boat is shrink-wrapped in the Baltic for the winter so I cannot check the software version but will do so in the spring.
    Thanks for the heads-up although I must admit the description of “white backlight” on the upgrade description does sound confusing.
    I like the idea of the new Triton2 and I’m thinking of adding one away from my steering position so my crew (and myself when boat is on auto or the crew is helming) can see the instruments more easily.

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