DSC VHF channel changing SAFETY ALERT, depressing!

Ben Ellison

Ben Ellison

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9 Responses

  1. Anonymous says:

    Ben, Thats a European only standard and has been effectively implemented in a lot of european radios to date. In my case the radio only switches when I ack the call not before.
    Dave

  2. Anonymous says:

    Ben
    Thanks, as always, for writing about these issues. The automatic switching did seem to be a great safety feature of the DSC. However, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
    After seeing the scenario played out as to its potential pitfalls, it makes sense.
    An Automatic switching is great for those who do not know how to respond to the alerts. However, it can cause problems for those who are more experienced radio users.
    I do like (and can now see why) the idea of systems that do not switch you over without your approval. As you noted this will take time for the standards to change.
    This should not be depressing but uplifting that the technology isn’t going away, but will be refined so that it works better for everyone.
    Thanks again for all you do for us out here in cyberland!

  3. Andy says:

    Frustrating, sure. But anytime you have a device try to out think its operator, this is the kind of complexity likely to arise. I would also argue that the problem here is not the technology or politics, but simply the crying of “wolf”. I think it is practically impossible to design any kind of system that could withstand surplus false alarms without leading to reduced attention to legitimate distress calls by some means or another.
    I would like to think this would only effect busy harbors, but I imagine once auto-switch is disabled, radios will remain that way for the duration until crew hear a distress beep and think to reenable. Let’s hope there’s time for at least one more distress call.
    Maybe they should build in a digital record so they can play back the distress call once they are able to change channels.

  4. John D says:

    The issue I think is that EVERY DSC radio in range is auto-switching to a new channel. These are folks who are unlikely to be so close to the accident that the auto-switch is useful in saving time, and this is ABSOLUTELY disruptive to normal ship board operations.
    All the alarms, and whooping and beeping is so annoying.
    On an alert the radio should chirp or similar and then, if the user wishes, the user should be able to switch to indicated channel.
    The first thing people ask me if I actually start trying to use DSC to communicate with them is how to turn off all the ringing and alarming.
    This tells me that A) DSC calls are very rare B) The user interface is still very unpleasant.
    Give me the nextel beep or similar. Users would quickly understand that means an incoming DSC call.

  5. Anonymous says:

    The possibility of automatic channel switching interrupting communications was recognized back in 2002 – that’s why the standards have been modified to allow such switching to be disabled.
    http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafety/bulletins-2002-04-eng.htm

  6. Evan says:

    This is a slightly disappointing step back, although I can see what prompted it.
    I have to say though, that it doesn’t seem to matter here in the Pacific Northwest.
    I spent three months cruising last summer on my sailboat between Seattle and the Canadian Gulf Islands and although I monitored several saftey situations including the loss of a boat, there was only one occasion the entire three months where the (Canadian) coast guard (or anyone else) triggered the DSC system.
    It actually took me a minute or so to figure out what was going on :).
    I would be happier if I heard the DSC system going off more often, so I know I am not missing an situation I should be aware of.
    Evan

  7. Dan Corcoran (b393capt) says:

    If a user shuts AUTO (channel switching) off, how does that affect the red distress button functionality? E.g. will the radio still switch to 16 for the user who pressed the distress button?
    Hope? I believe you wrote about a vendor who has quite a bit of integration between the radio and the chartplotter, including the ability to click on an AIS contact and have the VHF call the associated MMSI number. I believe there was an address book of boats & MMSI numbers from which a call could be initiated as well. This kind of user frindly interface may be the only future for widespread adoption of DSC calling. Perhaps the kind of functionality where the chartplotter controls the VHF radio can bring us functions to overcome various issues around this, as well as replace the annoying alert with “a chirp” as John D suggested?

  8. Bill Lentz says:

    I have to admit about 3 years ago when I got my
    1st DSC call I was not sure what was going on. However since then I have only heard the alert used 3 times in all cases the unit sending the alert had no programmed information MSSI or position data.
    Since upgrading to an all NMEA2000 network I have used the feature through my chart plotter to verify a vessel could see me on their AIS transponder. the system has worked flawlessly. It is also extremely easy to use. However pre NMEA2000 it was a pain to use. The GUI has gotten easier to use with every software upgrade, meaning the
    Garmin plotters controlling and recording the AIS transponders data and VHF200
    radios.
    Bill Lentz

  9. arazon says:

    Thank you for writing about this issue, which has been bothering me for quite a while as well. As I mulled over it though, I guess there’s some good that can come out of it. It will take some getting used to, but I’m confident the technology will adjust to this change and will be more refined; in other words, it doesnt Cheers!

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